Ep. 126: A Love Letter to the LSAT

A new week and a new batch of listener mail. But first the guys talk about the current craziness of world events and the political climate here in the states. They agree, it’s probably valuable to focus less on the news, and more on the things we can control – like hanging out with friends, or getting your best LSAT score. With a new LSAT added this July, the guys wonder about why LSAC may have added a new test. Nathan shares an example of how this news is affecting students IRL. Plus, the guys get a lesson in southern grammar.

5:39 – Email 1—Are you guys getting tired of hearing updates from Wicked? We’re not. This 179 / 3-point-really-high GPA law school applicant let’s us know that she’s been accepted to Columbia (with a half-tuition scholarship), and to Michigan with a full ride PLUS stipend. It looks like the couple of typos from her Michigan scholarship app didn’t hold her back. That’s pretty effing great. Congrats, Wicked, and thanks for the update.

7:22 – Email 2—Remember back in episode 122 when the guys shared information from a study that showed students who wrote expressively about their feelings on the LSAT tended to perform better on the test? Well. Kyle took that shit to heart. He wrote a letter to the LSAT to dish his feelings about the test. The LSAT, he says, has made him a better man. But it’s not always been easy. Tune in to hear his tender words, and the guys discussion thereof.

13:24 – Email 3—Another follow-up email with correspondent Ravinder. You may recall from episode 124 that Ravinder wanted to know how much the Thinking LSAT community would need to donate in order to have the guys cover some fresh LSAT material from more recent tests. Since then, Ravinder’s taken to Ben’s free resources online and Nathan’s free resources online and has found them exceptionally helpful. You should check them out, too, dear listeners. Ravinder goes on to question the integrity of Splitty’s scientific-paper publications (from episode 123); he cites a recent NPR article that reports certain scientific journals will publish any ol’ paper for a fee. With the mention of Splitty, the guys jump into a discussion of impressive people. Like astronauts who are concert pianists. Or dudes who blast cars into space just because they can.

19:29 – Email 4—Michael recently found Thinking LSAT. He started listening this year after receiving a disappointing 141 on the June ’07 prep test.  Since, he’s been working his way through Ben’s free online course. He notes that Ben occasionally talks about question choices being strong vs. weak, and asks the guys to elaborate, or point him in the direction of additional resources on the topic. Ben and Nathan are quick to let Michael know this pro tip: answer strength is a last resort—understand the passage first, and you’ll be in a much better spot to spot the correct answer.

24:21 – Email 5—After listening to Thinking LSAT and taking Nathan’s free online course, Laura saw her 161 jump to a 165 between the September and December LSAT last year. Congrats Laura! Now she wants to know…should she take it again? Or stick by this pretty sweet score? Nathan and Ben agree—it never hurts to take the test again. And even though Laura’s exhausted many of the recent practice tests, the guys point out that even if you trend upward because you’ve taken a test more than once, you can still glean valuable info by learning from where you’ve made mistakes.

31:21 – Email 6—Alec opens their email by wondering how best to donate money to the show. Great question, A! Thinking LSAT just started a Patreon account. So now you can give to the show to your heart’s content. There are contribution levels starting at $1 a month. So if you find value in the show, consider supporting! OK. Brass tacks. Alec’s in an accelerated undergrad program for pre-law students. His school has offered to accept students in this program to their law school if the students score over a 153 on the LSAT. How generous of them to accept your money with such a low hurdle to cross! But here’s the tricky part. Alec already scored a 156 on a practice exam. So he’s wondering if he should just cruise in to his university’s law school or what? The guys weigh in.      

43:11 – Email 7—Annalisa writes in to share the story of winning her first case. Against her dad. Like any parent, Annalisa’s dad had a mandate for her and her brother to attend law school—for their own future financial security of course. But after listening to Thinking LSAT, Annalisa sat her dad down to school him on the realities of becoming a lawyer and practicing law. Tune in to hear her plans for next steps.

47:21 – Email 8—“They” Pronoun Enthusiast writes in to share their thoughts on a few previous episodes. How should the guys end the show? How should the guys deal with singular pronouns if the subject’s gender isn’t specified? And hilarity ensues when They suggests that Nathan is misguided apropos his position on Halo Top “ice cream.” But They doesn’t just have tips. They has a question. Did they guys always score higher on test day than during their practice tests? And if so, by how much. Nathan and Ben recount their practice vs. test-day outcomes.

9 Comments


  1. Thanks, guys! Is there a link to the group that Matt made? If not, I’ll make a FB group and link it below.

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    1. Thanks for making a Facebook group, Annalisa! (Feel free to link it below!)
      -Matt

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  2. Aloha from Hawaii!

    Hey Ben and Nathan, thank you for the awesome podcast. As many listeners have shared, I too enjoy listening to episodes while commuting for work. I began listening in November of last year and have finally made it to episode 120 something (skipping around the last few). I took the LSAT the first time in June 2017 and got a 162. I just sat for the recent February 2018 LSAT.

    I am a procrastinator; however, your podcast motivated me to commit to studying for the LSAT. The LSAT became fun. While I caught a horrendous cold that took me out for almost three weeks in January (my whole firm got wiped out), I felt as if the February test was just another practice test. While it was not, and will never be, PT 84, it was still fun. I am absolutely looking forward to grey day.

    Side note: the testing center at the University of Hawaii was, on both occasions, fast and uneventful. If anyone has plans to vacation in Oahu, I highly recommend you consider taking the LSAT here. 🙂

    Another side note: interestingly, just before I was about to send this “love letter” to y’all, I received an email from LSAC. Titled “Action Requested: Post-LSAT Questionnaire – February 2018,” The LSAC Social Science Research Team sent a link to a 10 minute survey to “help us better understand our test-taking population.” I took the survey and the best question was #5: “If the LSAT were offered on a monthly basis, which months do you think would be most popular among test takers like you?” I’d like to believe this is suggestive of LSAC possibly providing more test dates in the (near) future. Otherwise, the survey was dull – it inquired about what kind of job I’d be happy with after law school, what I have been doing since graduating from college, etc. Not really sure what LSAC will glean from this survey, but I hope my 10 minutes will be appreciated.

    Anyhow, I may write again, or not. Either way, know that y’all have a faithful listener in Hawaii.

    Best,
    Sunny

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    1. Aloha Sunny! Thanks for the update. I’m glad you found the podcast helpful, and I love the tip about the test center at the University of Hawaii! This is an excellent idea; everyone should register for the Oahu site and make an adventure out of it. It’s hard to imagine being stressed out in Hawaii… I’m not sure it’s possible 🙂

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  3. What time do you guys try to post on Tuesday? Sometimes it’s available early or the day before, sometimes not…

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    1. We are attempting to post at 11 am PST / 2 pm EST every Tuesday, but we’re ironing out a few kinks and can’t promise it will ever be exactly that time (or even day)…

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