Episode 61: Doogie Howser, JD: An Interview With 15 year old College Senior Seth Harding.

Episode 61 features an interview with Seth Harding, a 15 year old college senior who is preparing to take the LSAT. Seth is planning to take the test on June 6th and hopes to raise his current practice score of 148 to an Ivy-league competitive score within the next 3 weeks. Will we convince Seth to postpone his test date, as his goal is extremely ambitious, if not impossible? Will he convince a skeptical Nathan that he’ll be mentally and emotionally prepared to start law school at only 16 years old? Will Seth appreciate any of Ben’s spot-on Doogie Howser jokes? Listen in to find out the answers to these questions and more. (0:55)

Nathan discusses some recent advice his prep class received from law school admissions expert Ann Levine, including the optimal time to apply to law school and when applying “early” is no longer considered early. (35:10)

We dole out some tough love to Henry, a law school hopeful who emailed Nathan asking for tips on how to raise his LSAT score from an untimed 160-165 to  a 175-180. We definitively conclude that any score must be from a timed practice test to convey real information on one’s performance on the test. (42:30)

We work through Question #22 in section 2 of the June 2007 LSAT, a Logical Reasoning problem that asks you to find the answer that Must Be True. Download the free test here and try the question, then listen in for our explanation. (53:15)

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  1. I think that taking some more time off like an additional semester would be beneficial, and in that time Seth do some more work experience (maybe try to get an internship in DC or somewhere like that) and also try to take a prep course to raise the score. Other than that I think no longer than a year (and this could be pushing it) is necessary. Yes, it may give some pause to some schools or employers, but if he has the credentials (good lsat score, good gpa, and he has some good field experience too), he will stand out. He should consider mentioning his age and being in college so young in his personal statement. It can give pause because most people at 15 are not mature and are nowhere near prepared for finishing college, let alone law school. But if he considers these things and improves his score as well as sells himself well, he will stand out, which is important in a law school application, especially more selective schools. I appreciate both points and wish the best for Seth


    1. Thanks for listening! I’ll pass your note along to Seth in case he doesn’t see it here.


  2. Hey guys, what’s up with the secret/lost LSAT PrepTests, 39-51? If one does acquire them, are they still valuable study materials? I’m curious if they are not available anymore because they are not representative of the current exam. Thanks!


    1. Yes, those tests are still new enough that they are very valuable study materials. My online class and my Logic Games Playbook both use those tests heavily–I find them very similar to today’s tests.


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