Episode 71: Who Killed the Electric LSAT?

Thinking LSAT gets political as we discuss the Trump-Clinton debate, and Nathan shares his surprising opinion on the outcome. Don’t worry if you’re not offended yet, we’ll discuss religion at the end of the show. (0:30)

A commercial break here for Nathan to plug his upcoming LSAT Boot Camps in San Francisco and Los Angeles. Get more information and sign up for a magical weekend with Nathan Fox. (8:28)

Tragically funny experiences from the September LSAT include distracting proctors and proctors who forget how to tell time, and a violation for going one second over in the Writing Sample section. We share some tips on avoiding these violations by wrapping up the sample quickly and clearly. (9:30)

Ben shares big news from the 2004 LSAC Report— a tablet-based LSAT will be released for testing in 2015!!! Oh wait, it wasn’t. We discuss the pros and cons (there aren’t any cons, actually) of such a test, and speculate on why it never happened. (23:40)

An email from Greg asks whether his advisor calling the September test “unusual” is accurate and what that might mean for the December LSAT he plans to take. (49:55)

Anonymous is concerned about inconsistency in his practice test scores. Ben says this is a super common experience and Nathan says this student is just not good enough at the LSAT yet. Either way, we agree speeding up is not the answer. (49:55)

We work on a Sufficient Assumption question from the June 2007 LSAT. To play at home just download the free test, work through Section 3, Question #5, and listen in as we discuss the problem in detail. (1:07:00)

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6 Comments


  1. Hey dudes, do you have any thoughts on if it’s a good idea to write about a specific area of law that you intend to work in within your personal statement? Or stay more broad?
    Thanks! 🙂

    Ugh too much pressure to come up with an awesome pseudonym… I’ll leave that up to you guys. Surprise me!

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    1. Hi Rachel, we just discussed your question on the most recent episode. It will come out early next week. Thanks!

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  2. Nathan says that if you don’t sign up for two tests, you’re “shooting yourself in the foot.” IIRC this was because of variations in the difficulty of the tests. But aren’t they graded on a curve? Or is the median score lower on a more difficult one?

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  3. Hey, guys, thanks for answering my question the above question on Episode 73! As part of the answer, Nathan said he didn’t say what I said he said in the first sentence of my question above. He’s right that he didn’t say, “…if you don’t sign up for two tests…”. And he went on to say (this is my paraphrase!) that he wasn’t talking about the difficulty of the test per se, but rather about the day-to-day variability of the test taker’s condition or of happenstances at the test center. About that, I think Nathan was wrong (about what he said in Ep. 71), and the gist of my question about test content variability as it may affect testee scores was justified by what he said in Ep. 71. (Part of the context in what follows is the temporarily-infamous fourth game on the Sept. test.)

    47:47: “…people need to not just have one test date on your calendar, y’know. You’ve got to be thinking about having a backup plan, and potentially two backup dates because, yeah, June 2016 games — if that was the test, I can’t remember which one’s which, but — June 2016 could have been really easy and Sept. 2016 could have been really weird, and Dec. 2016 we don’t know, and, but, I am pretty certain that if you take three tests in a row, one of them is going to be a pretty manageable section of games, that seems to be how it goes, right? So for these people who have the idea that they’re only going to take the LSAT once, I feel like you’re shooting yourself in the foot.”

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    1. To clarify, I do think the tests differ slightly in difficulty. But students’ own variability is more important. In any case, do yourself a favor and schedule at least one backup date, preferably two.

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      1. I’m taking it on Dec. 3. I plan to wait until Dec. 4 to sign up for February. If I feel good about Dec. 3 I won’t; otherwise I will. The June 2017 test is off the table; I’m going to be a 1L next fall *somewhere*.

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